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THE APOLOGIST FOR ISLAM BETTER START APOLOGISING

Kirralie Smith

Kirralie Smith is the creator of the halal choices website, shopping guide book and phone app and an expert on halal certification of foods and supermarkets in Australia www.halalchoices.com.au

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Today the Sydney Morning Herald published yet another article by their Islamic poster boy Waleed Aly. The comment preceding the post on facebook said, “This isn’t really a conversation about Islam. It’s too transparent politically, and theologically illiterate – for that. The more interesting story here is one of a collapsing brand of politics.”

The irony is, that quote came from Waleed Aly himself in an attempt to criticise Tony Abbott and Donald Trump. Yet it far more accurately describes Waleed and every other Islamic apologist given air time in the media.

So come on Waleed, let's talk about Islam. You rarely do. 

Here are some conversation starters.

1. Is Mohamed the supreme example of a human being? 

2. Does the Qur'an command muslims to 'obey Allah and the messenger?' 

3. Do you follow the example of Mohamed? 

4. Are you a true muslim if you reject the example of Mohamed and disobey the Qur'an? 

5. Was Mohamed right to sexually abuse children, remember he married a six year old and the marriage was consummated when she was just nine? Please don't insult our intelligence by saying it was culturally appropriate. Was your prophet right or wrong? 

6. Do you reject the example of your prophet or condone/excuse it? 

7. Let's compare Jesus and Mohamed. Jesus was peaceful, Mohamed became increasingly violent. 

8. Let's discuss how the violence in the Bible was descriptive, it was limited to a time and place, describing historic events. Whereas the violence in the Qur'an is prescriptive - open commands to all muslims, not limited to time or place. Does this make you, or ISIS, the true muslims? 

9. Was Mohamed correct about gays being stoned, thrown off buildings or beheaded - or was he wrong? 

10. Do you reject the verses in the Qur'an that explicitly call for muslims to strike at the necks of unbelievers and cut off their fingertips? Did Allah get that wrong? 

11. Is a true muslim meant to take the Qur'an literally? Are they able to pick and choose the bits they like? Can a muslim actually determine what Allah or Mohamed got right or wrong? 

12. Is Allah ever wrong? 

13. Was Mohamed ever wrong?

Then we could talk about beheading 800 Jews, taking slaves, punishing apostates, dhimmitude, stoning adulterers, the inferiority of women and so much more….What about the OIC nations? Have they all misinterpreted the Qur’an and example of Mohamed too? Will you Waleed, condemn the Sharia Law practices of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran and Iraq?

It would be a fascinating conversation no doubt. However, I won’t hold my breath, I think Waleed will be ‘busy’ that day.



Comments

Not to worry folks, Wally and his mates will be around with Malcolm for Christmas Dinner to show their inclusiveness. All is forgiven Wally, now go back to your sand pit

Thomas Aquinas on Islam.
“He (Mohammed) seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh urges us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected; he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity.

He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of tru

Here's St Tho,mas Aquinas on Islam. All you need to know.

An open letter to Arab-Muslims in Australia

It is hard to write a letter like this without being branded a racist, a bigot, politically incorrect or a person of extreme intolerance. I would hope that the people who know me would quickly understand that this is not the case and understand why I am writing this. I love the colour, culture and diversity and blend of the people that make up my great country. My feelings have been a little like this up until the Bali Bombings and 911 but the recent atrocities in Paris, and the cold blooded murder of a civilian outside a Police Station in Sydney have led me to pen this, along with a letter I read from a Mr Kevin Daly from Beltsville, USA. Before, and even after the first 2 despicable acts I guess I was a lot more tolerant of the Islamic religion and followers but now I am starting to notice you and that worries me. People from your homelands have engaged in these acts of terror in the name of your religion. Mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers and children are no longer with us due to these acts.
I don’t really know what all your grievances and hate issues are but I know that the killing of innocent people cannot be justified on religious grounds. I know your “moderates” tell me that the Koran does not teach this and I often see a quoted verse from the Koran that tends to suggest this but when one looks more closely, there are plenty of examples where the exact opposite is true. I am also aware that in the Koran only uses the word “peace” once and that is in relation to why would we want peace if we are on top!
My problem, as a rational Australian, is I don’t know who to trust. How do I differentiate between the Arab-Muslim Australians and the Arab-Muslim terrorists when I walk through communities, beaches, parks, shopping centres and in our community at large? Everyone who is here is under the protection of our constitution and laws but I really need your help in telling the difference between you and the Arab-Muslim terrorist. I don’t want any more of my fellow citizens killed or injured because the Arab-Muslim terrorist isn’t happy with my great and tolerant country.
Like a lot of Australians we go along quietly with things and have always been very optimistic and the “she’ll be right mate” attitude has always prevailed, but “she’s” not right mate! You need to show me where you stand.
It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces Australia, with all of its religions, with all of its different citizens and with all of its faults. I want some help from you in determining this for me, in my country.
Surely I have the right to know whether or not you love Australia and that you pledge allegiance to our flag. I know you like the social benefits and fairness our country offers you but I can’t assume you love Australia like I do. I assume, like a lot of other people, that you came here for a better life for you and your family but your hatred needs to be left where you came from as, remember, that is why you came! You need to teach your children about peace, tolerance and the Australian way of life. By all means teach them their origins and the culture that those origins contain. I want you to embrace Australia like many other people from all walks of life and religions have done over the years. I like Christmas, Easter and the other celebrations Australia has. If you don’t like that, don’t celebrate, but don’t try and stop me from doing what I do in my country. We are very adaptable in Australia and have learnt to celebrate the Lunar New Year with all of our friends who celebrate and if you have something to celebrate I am sure we will join in, but meanwhile don’t try and spoil my children’s fun. Remember you came here to leave a lot of your issues and troubles behind and you shouldn’t try and have an each way bet.
From your religion I would be expecting that you would be praying to Allah to bless Australia and that he will protect it and let it prosper. I would also be expecting that you would be thankful to Allah for the freedom that this great country affords you and for the hundreds of thousands of young patriots who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for that very freedom. Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love Australia? If this is your commitment than I want you to start letting me know about it.
Your Muslim leaders should be flooding the media in condemnation of these actions and telling me what hard actions you are taking as a community and a religion to protect Australia. I don’t want any more overtures over the deaths of innocents, because now I worry who you consider innocent. I don’t want to hear any more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks, because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy as now I am only interested in action. What will you do for Australia as this crisis continues to grow? You talk a lot about that this is not the behaviour of “moderates” but what does that mean? Is this the example of “moderation” being preached in your mosques (see link)? https://youtu.be/EYAcLudBbhg You need to tell me it’s not the case and demonstrate what “moderate” means.
I would like to see Arab-Muslims waving the Australian flag in the streets. I would like to hear “Allah Bless Australia”. I want to see young Arab-Muslim men enlisting in our military services.
Our Agencies have a long list of people that they know are an ongoing threat to us. Many of these people live and socialize right now, in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are. Give our Agencies a heads up as to where they may be and what they are up to. Show us that you are good Australians. To date we have seen little of this action, but rather we have seen a closing up and a more secretiveness in these communities.
You seem more concerned about getting apologies on the way we are starting to think about you, but you can’t really blame us.
If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance, peace and love for all people then I want to hear it chapter and verse from the Koran and by way of statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good are teachings when some leaders are teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism and intolerance? It matters little how good Islam should be if huge numbers of the world’s Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion.
That form has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose foundation is built upon a foundation of violence, death and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from prisons around the globe. A form that treats women as second class citizens and allows men to beat and mutilate their women. A form whose members (some as young as five years old) are seen day after day, week in week out, year after year, marching in the streets burning effigies of world leaders, burning flags and shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against our great country, their country of birth. A form whose rules are so twisted that the travelling members refuse to show their faces at security checkpoints in the name of Islam.
We will never allow this to take away our freedom and our rights to live in our great country. I want to know where every Arab-Muslim in this country stands and I think it is a right to want this.
I want you here as a brother, a neighbour, a friend and as a fellow Australian but you can’t have grey areas of ambivalence regarding your allegiance. I want you to show me you respect my wife and you respect your own wife. I don’t want Sharia Law in Australia and, you have to understand that if you live here, you have to abide by our laws, as do I if I live in your original country. It’s quite simple. If I go to your country or someone else’s country I have to abide by their laws, because that is the condition of entry. I want you, in a time of conflict against our country, to stand shoulder to shoulder with me and other Australians in the face of that adversity with no mention of religion or race. I want to know that your love for Australia, and your fellow Australians, is above and beyond what is happening in another country. It is up to you to show me where you stand but until then you worry me.

OzAndy

All brilliant questions. Much on my mind now.

Merry Christmas Kirralie.

It wasn't a waste of time for Ray Martin - He probably got paid a fortune of our money for his feeble efforts. How much exertion could have been required for Martin to put his feet up on the desk and tap on it with a couple of pencils for the duration of the inquiry? The outcome was a foregone conclusion. Bolt and Piers Akerman should have conducted it.

Waleed, will be busy into the future. He will be presenting himself on TV knowing we are all looking at a Muslim, who will lie to stay in touch with Islam, "the religion of Peace, when we know the "Quarn, representing Islam", is the product of a medieval Arab bandit and his narcissistic wish to rule the world, it is in fact a supremacist ideology. It believes in the oppression of women and non believers. It encourages slavery, violence, theft, murder and cultural destruction just to name a few. Waleed will need the face of a Poker player....

Criticism of Islam is anti-Semitic !!!

Move along, nothing to see here! Move along! What did we expect? an honest unbiased assessment? Thst would be like getting an opinion of Hitler from his mother, how much did that BS cost us?

Is there anything to the rumour that the terrorist hotline's been contracted out to Lakemba mosque?

It amazes me when you see a car with a bumper sticker " Say yes to refugees" and there is no token sand nigga in the car!

Ole Mate, Ray obviously has not watched Q&A.

Has Benzo gone to meet his maker ?

The rich pay most of the taxes, S. Being rich is good. You want your kids and theirs to have the chance at wealth, don't you? Or you could go live in Cuba and insist we all join you. Jealousy is a very corrosive thing. It can turn an otherwise decent person into a blithering idiot.

We don't give lunatic terrorists the platform they crave and hell would freeze over before a terrorist could embarrass anyone. They are lower than shark shit in everyone's eyes but yours.

Lady pirate congratulations to you. Well done. It is a close knit club - even if we didn't actually ask to join (lol). Thanks to you too BlackRoo. Stay positive!!

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/04/14/us-oligarchy-not-democracy-says-scientific-study

I wonder what a similar study would find here in Aus? Study Finds US Is an Oligarchy, Not a Democracy

"Researchers from Princeton University and Northwestern University have concluded, after extensive analysis of 1,779 policy issues, that the U.S. is in fact an oligarchy and not a democracy. What this means is that, although 'Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance,' 'majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts.' Their study found that 'When the preferences of economic elites and the stands of organized interest groups are controlled for, the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically impact upon public policy.'"

I cringe every time I see that slime on the box. He reminds me of an old time insurance salesman, with the shiny suit and brylcreemed hair.
A bull mastiff pig dog would probably like to play with him as a chew toy.