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DOES GOD EXIST? DOES IT MATTER?

Harry Richardson

Harry Richardson is a long-time student of Islam and author of best seller, "the Story Of Mohammed - Islam Unveiled', http://thestoryofmohammed.blogspot.com.au

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I came across a cartoon online. I thought it was very powerful and very persuasive. I also thought it was very wrong on a number of levels.

The cartoon has two people in it. One is a woman who is a Christian. I’ll call her Mary for convenience. Then we have a man who is an atheist. Again, for convenience, I’ll call him David.

The backdrop to the cartoon looks like the aftermath of yet another school shooting in the US. Mary and David are discussing the reasons for it. Mary looks stunned. “Why has God allowed this to happen” she asks.

“Because God doesn’t exist,” answers David. “Engage with reality and fix your [email protected]#king gun laws.”

 

 

Now before I get into this, I just want to say that I am not a Christian or an Athiest. I’m an Agnostic. God may exist, or God may not exist. I just don’t know.

So, I’m not taking sides here on ideological grounds. Also, I am not a “gun nut” in any sense at all. I have never owned a gun. I’ve never even fired a gun, other than an air rifle and frankly, I hope I never have to. On the other hand, I understand clearly the rationale for the Second Amendment in the US Constitution.

 

 

That said, let’s get back to this cartoon.

Now this cartoon is a terrible blow to a Christian. We have a situation where a group of children are lying dead and bleeding on the ground. Poor Mary is asking “why has God allowed this awful thing to happen.”

David then puts the boot in. He is totally brutal here and blames Mary and her ilk fair and square.

Not only does he tell Mary that her God doesn’t exist. He blames Mary, and by default, all Christians, for the shooting. “Engage with reality,” he tells her, “and fix YOUR [email protected]#king gun laws.”

Now, this is messed up on a number of levels. The first mistake in the cartoon comes from Mary. She is blaming God for this tragedy. She thinks that God, through his negligence, has allowed this to happen.

Christian theology is different to Islamic theology. Christians believe that the God of the Bible gave us free will. They believe God put us on the earth and gave us guidance. He told us what we should do.

Unfortunately, we ignored him and consequently, bad things have happened. A Christian can’t blame God for this, the fault lies with humans who have ignored his rules.

 

 "Hmm, that's a nice pear"

Christians believe that God gave us commandments such as “Thou shalt not kill.” So, to blame the God of the Bible for this killing spree is somewhat unfair. Mary’s question should have been, “why didn’t this killer follow God’s instructions?”

However, Mary’s demeanour is very different to David’s. She is looking at God and asking why he has allowed this to happen. She is questioning her own belief system and wondering what has gone wrong.

David on the other hand isn’t questioning anything. Perhaps because Atheists don’t believe in God, they are prone to think that they themselves are God. Consequently, many of them have an unshakeable belief in their own analytical powers.

 

  “Murder my opponents, install me as dictator and I will create a perfect society - I swear by Almighty Me.”

 

David lays the blame for this tragedy straight at Mary’s feet. By default, he blames all Christians for not fixing the gun laws.

David has a nice, simplistic fix and he has total confidence that when “his will is done” that everything will be OK. Just pass a law outlawing gun ownership and the problem will disappear.

Unfortunately for David, the situation is more complex than he imagines.

The first problem is, that there are millions of guns in America. However, only a very small number of gun owners are causing the problem. The challenge then, is to remove the guns from that small number of problem people.

 

 

David’s solution is to remove the guns from everyone.

Unfortunately, this is pretty much impossible. The only people who are likely to give up their guns willingly are the ones who aren’t causing the problem. You may get rid of most guns. People who really want guns however, will get hold of them somehow.

That is not to say that reducing the number of guns might not reduce the number of gun crimes. It may well do so. However, it is not a foregone conclusion as David supposes.

But let us suppose that we are successful and remove the guns from all the citizens in America. For sure, we will now see a reduction in the number of gun crimes. However, this comes at a price. The only gun owners now, will be Government employees such as police and armed forces.

Whilst this may not pose an immediate threat, there is the possibility that the Government will have bad intentions towards its citizens. Since this has happened repeatedly in almost every society on the planet, there is no reason to suppose that it couldn’t happen in the USA.

If the Government goes rogue, the impact on society is far greater than an occasional school shooting, however traumatic that might be.

 

 "I'm sorry sir, it appears your living permit has expired."

Left wing governments in particular have a terrible record of tyranny. Tens of millions of bodies piled up in the last century alone.

Admittedly, there are some people who favour lax gun laws because they just like guns and shooting things. There are however, many people in the USA who understand that the reason for the Second Amendment is to prevent such tyranny. That is why they resent people who wish to disarm them.

Not all of these people are Christians however. It may even be true that a majority of supporters of the Second Amendment are Atheists, I would not be surprised. I just don’t know, so unlike David, I won’t be telling Christians that this is “YOUR” law.

 Apart from anything else, this isn’t just a law, it’s part of the Constitution. Fiddle with that at your peril.

So, if we take a slightly cooler headed look at the problem of gun violence, and in particular spree killings in schools, one thing jumps out at us straight away.

Mass shootings in schools are quite a recent phenomenon. Forty or fifty years ago, they were practically unheard of. Yet gun ownership, as a percentage of the population hasn’t changed that much. Years ago, kids would even take guns into school to show to friends.

So what has changed in America that would lead to such a startling change in behaviour. Well, clearly, there have been many things that have changed in the last fifty years. Technology has brought many different ideas and points of view into people’s lives. Radio, television, the internet and now social media have plugged us in to a whole new set of ideas. Not all of these ideas are positive, to say the least.

 

 

There have been family breakups, violent movies and video games and a whole gamut of other factors which might have had an influence on people. For me however, the one thing which stands out, and I say this as an agnostic, is the decline of Christianity in people’s lives.

Kids who go into a school with the intention of shooting up as many people as possible have low odds of survival. They know this. Many of them will actually turn the gun on themselves at the end in an act of murder suicide.

So how is David’s secular law going to deter people from such a heinous act. Will the death penalty deter someone from a murder suicide? Of course not. People who grow up without a belief in an afterlife have no sense of accountability to anyone other than themselves.

They are restrained only by what they can get away with. For people in leadership positions, or kids wielding assault rifles in school, that is pretty much anything they like.

Whilst Christians can sometimes seem pious, smug and even hypocritical, I would much sooner live in a society of Christians than with people of any other belief system. Christianity imparts a sense of restraint and grace. It is this sense of grace which is totally lacking in David’s self-righteous order to Mary to “fix her [email protected]#king gun laws.”

The problem with Atheism is that there is no inherent Golden Rule, to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” There is no acceptance of any kind of absolute morality. Even if there was, there is no fear of a higher authority to compel people to abide by such rules.

That is where Christianity scores over Buddhism. While Buddhism has similar ethics to Christianity, it has no higher power to enforce the rules. That is probably why Buddhist countries like Laos, Burma, Cambodia and Thailand are all totalitarian in nature and backwards in terms of technology and social capital.

 

Thailand re-joins its Buddhist neighbours as a brutal military dictatorship

 

In Atheism, people are free to make up the laws as they see fit. Unfortunately, what one man “sees fit” is not always good for those around him.

The US Declaration of Independence is a document which has underpinned one of the most successful societies in human history. The USA is a nation which people round the world flock to when given a chance.

The Declaration of Independence is interwoven throughout with Christian terminology and principles. It states for instance that all men “are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

These rights, in other words, sit above whoever may be the rulers of the day. They are endowed by a God. The God of the Founding Fathers was a Christian God. That is fine, provided the rulers happen to be actual true Christians.

For most of its history, the majority of people in the USA have held strong Christian beliefs. In the last fifty years or so, this has been changing and many Americans have been “losing their religion.”

The Enlightenment thinkers in Europe decided that God doesn’t exist. Whether they were right or not is something I just don’t know. There are certainly good arguments to support their case. As time has passed by, science has taught us far more about the Universe and explained things which seemed previously unexplainable.

However, the current scientific consensus is that the entire Universe just popped out of a spot of nothingness smaller than a pin head for no particular reason whatsoever. How and why could all the matter in the Universe simply pop out of such a miniscule spot? To believe such a thing seems to me to be just as fanciful as the idea that it was all created in six days by some mythical God figure.

The Enlightenment thinkers may have been right about God. Maybe he doesn’t exist. Unfortunately, they were so pleased with this discovery that they failed to think very deeply about the logical consequence.

They figured that if God doesn’t exist, then there is no point believing in him. At this point, they probably grabbed their wallets and rushed down to the local house of ill-repute.

 

 

Little wonder then, that this conclusion never received the scrutiny it should have. Strange as it may sound, there is in fact a very good reason to believe in a Christian God, even if he doesn’t exist.

Christianity provides a system of personal restraint. It holds us back from doing the things we really want to do. To cast off these shackles can be personally beneficial, certainly in the short term.

Unfortunately, this restraint is the glue which holds society together. Once society removes these restraints, our friends and neighbours start to do what they feel like doing. Some of them will feel like doing some pretty antisocial things and before long, we wind up with schools full of dead and bleeding children.

Furthermore, the Bible is full of deeply thought out wisdom. There is such a wealth of intelligent understanding in the Bible, and much of it is counterintuitive. Removing Christianity has removed our connection to this biblical wisdom. We now have all sorts of bizarre beliefs which are highly destructive to our way of life.

These beliefs have a habit of finding their way into law. Take the Same Sex Marriage laws. These were foisted upon us before most people had a chance to think through the consequences. Now that these laws have passed, we are finding that it is no longer possible to make any legal distinction between the sexes.

This promises to destroy women’s sport. It takes away the rights of women to have their own public toilets. It will undoubtedly lead to a myriad of unexpected and destructive consequences.

 

 “Sorry girls, you can’t discriminate against me – lol!”

 

True Christians did not vote for these laws. They didn’t need to wrestle with the rights and wrongs of the legislation to know it was wrong. True Christians knew it was wrong, because the Bible said so.

The loss of true Christianity has greatly weakened the West. Marxists have always understood this, which is why they have always been so vehemently anti-Christian yet strangely enamoured with other religions (despite their professed atheism).

If the European peoples are going to survive, I think we are going to have to re-discover our Christian roots. This time, it may have to be a move based on logic and survival, rather than spiritual discovery. I think Jordan Peterson is doing a good job on pointing the way forward. He understands the importance of Christianity and is able to clearly articulate it in a way that more spiritual Christians never could.



This could be the beginnings of a re-connection with Christianity for the European race. It may sound strange coming from an agnostic, but I sure hope so.

The Bible itself contains a long and well documented history of societies and nations which rose up following God’s rules and then turned their back on God. As a result, their societies crumbled, they were invaded and the people were carried off into slavery.


 “We wasn’t grooming them your honour, we wuz enslaving and raping them. An’ we ain't Asian eever.”

 

I would like to think that this time, things will be different but somehow, I have my doubts.



Comments

Atheism and Agnosticism are two entirely different things, Gnosticism concerns knowledge. Theism concerns belief (in a supernatural being). Religious people and atheists can also be agnostics. For example, many atheists in USA declare themselves as agnostic, since the word 'atheist' is still a pejorative word there.

If you don't believe in God, then you're an atheist. To say that you don't know if God exists is a total cop out.

Well said, Harry. As a Christian, I agree entirely with your premise that the decline of our society occurs in direct proportion to its rejection of God. However, rather than a mythical creature, God is as real as the universe He created. The Logos, the Word, is a rational and elegant reason for why we exist. And we bear the image of the Logos. Humans study logic and biology, both derived from the same word, logos. We all carry the knowledge of our God. It is called conscience...con-, with...-science, knowledge. Conscience..with knowledge. When we reject the Logos, we become insane, not scientific and rational. When we turn back to Him, the Word, the Logos, we regain our senses and are able to live again. Until a person does that they can blame the woes of the world only on themselves.

We, and I don't include myself, demanded God to be taken out of our guvmint, we demanded He be taken out of our schools, we demanded He be taken out of our businesses, we demanded He be taken out of our daily lives. And now we ask, where is He?, why isn't He helping us????? What were we really expecting????

PELICAN UPDATE. For the latest news on the Pelican's most recent interaction with Mossad go to the Climate Change Conversations thread. New update now available.

Harvard Law Professor Puts Jesus’ Resurrection on Trial

Legal scholar, Dr. Simon Greenleaf (1783–1853), decided to put Jesus’ resurrection on trial by examining the evidence. Greenleaf helped to put the Harvard Law School on the map. He also wrote the three-volume legal masterpiece, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, which has been called “the greatest single authority in the entire literature of legal procedure.”[1] The U.S. judicial system today still relies on rules of evidence established by Greenleaf.

As a legal scholar, Greenleaf wondered if Jesus’ resurrection would meet his stringent tests for evidence. He wondered whether or not the evidence for it would hold up in a court of law. Focusing his brilliant legal mind on the facts of history, Greenleaf began applying his rules of evidence to the case of Jesus’ resurrection.


Contrary to what skeptics might have expected, the more Greenleaf investigated the record of history, the more evidence he discovered supporting the claim that Jesus had indeed risen from the tomb.

So, what was that evidence? Greenleaf observed several dramatic changes that took place shortly after Jesus died, the most baffling being the behavior of the disciples. It wasn’t just one or two disciples who insisted Jesus had risen; it was all of them. Applying his own rules of evidence to the facts, Greenleaf arrived at his verdict.

After evaluating all the evidence, Greenleaf accepted Jesus’ resurrection as the best explanation for the events that took place immediately after his crucifixion. To this brilliant legal scholar, it would have been impossible for the disciples to persist with their conviction that Jesus had risen if they hadn’t actually seen the risen Christ.[2]

To this legal expert, the case for Jesus’ resurrection was so compelling that he had no doubt it would hold up in a court of law. In his book, The Testimony of the Evangelists, Greenleaf documents the evidence supporting his conclusion. He challenges those who seek the truth about the resurrection to fairly examine the evidence.

Greenleaf believed that any unbiased person who honestly examines the evidence, as in a court of law, will conclude what he did—that Jesus Christ has truly risen.[3]

PELICAN UPDATE. Please see new post for latest update on the Pelican's conversion to Judaism and its consequences.

Rachel Maddow Cries
Mark Dice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOxtH-6j8YU

New Post Up Folks, thank Someone.

WHY IS CHRISTIAN CIVILIZATION IN DEADLY DANGER?
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Because "Christianity" has become positively Christlessl
Not only do we not execute the commands of our SAVIOUR,
but nearly all our Aryan so-called ruling class, and even clergy,
seem to believe that HE was "wrong" and that they "are wiser ."
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They think that they must not be as full of "racial hatred" and
"religious prejudice" as they imagine HE was (St . Johns VIII, 44)
when HE condemned the scribes, whose criminal books called the
Talmud are being followed by an entire race, which is killing us!
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Out of each 100 gentiles 99 will surely shout
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"CHRIST ordered us to love even our worst foes ."
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Precisely ; that is why we are obliged to prevent the Jews from
"doing their lust of murder."* The more we love somebody, the
more must we endeavor to cure his criminality.

"I must be cruel only to be kind," Hamlet said.
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Love and connivance with crimes are different matters.
Would you tell your beloved child : "Go and murder?"
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Love the foes of CHRIST, but check their "lust of murder ."
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My book is not religious, but purely scientific . It is not my intention
to claim any merit of discovery, for the facts themselves
prove day by day how amazingly right CHRIST is .
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To follow HIS commands is hard and irksome .** The least
that we could do would be to recognize HIS Wisdom and HIS desire
to guide us safely even here-on: earth . But, as I said, our ruling
classes refuse, perhaps unconsciously, to believe HIS warnings.
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"When a nation forgets God, God sends an earthquake," said
the French genius, Victor Hugo . We are witnessing a political
earthquake in Russia, in fact on one-sixth of the surface of our
globe. By the news from that country we get daily information
that "numerous people convicted of counter-revolutionary activity
were shot to death today."
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The reason why so many persons are being killed is not because of their counter-revolutionary activity, but is nothing more or less than the deliberate murder of the intelligent
Aryan classes in order to substitute the Asiatics .
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*The murder may be moral, mental and physical .
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"*The Jews deceived many of us, that CHRIST has never said, that
the authors of the Talmud (now followed by a whole race) are the "sons
of the devil ." CHRIST could not fail to warn thus, because otherwise,
the above truth is so obviously proved by the true history, that we would
have the right to reproach OUR SAVIOUR for not having thus warned us.
The Jews lied that the Gospel of St . John was written later on, and
even might be apocryphal . Be it so (though it is not) . but does not CHRIST'S
other statement (St. Matthew's XXIII. 15) corroborate the St . John'st
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https://ia801407.us.archive.org/7/items/TheSecretWorldGovernmentOrHiddenHand/13065735-The-Secret-World-Government-or-The-Hidden-Hand-The-Unrevealed-in-History-Paperback.pdf
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The Secret World Government or The Hidden Hand - YouTube
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwajDSpFBvo ? 1:04:00
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http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=11221.0
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There are numberless proofs, that the Jews never sought the improvement of any nation, but that their aims were to murder and de-Christianize. They are like worms In the finest apple.
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"We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races. We have tarnished and broken their power. We have made everything foul, rotten, decomposed, decayed" (Dr. Kurth Munzer, a Jew, in his "The Way to Zion.")
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"Triumph of Jews is voiced by rabbi Israel Goldstein (New York). He referred to the great growth of Jewish influence" (N.Y. World, Sept. 21, 1925).
Alas! This influence means demoralization and "satanization!"
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"AUTOCRAT OF THE WORLD" BY CHOICE OF SATAN AND BECAUSE OF UNLAWFULNESS.
[below photograph:]
EDWARD ROTHSCHILD V.
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The "World Autocrat and Assassin," the Vicar of Satan on earth, the grandson of James Rothschild III, who, through his agent, a Mongol-talmudist, Judah P. Benjamin (the Secretary of State of the South), started the Civil War in America in 1861. Through his Mongol-talmudist, Benjamin Disraeli, he also arranged the landing in 1863 at Mexico of the troops of five powers in the hope of smashing the Northerners and annexing the South to his "Mexican" Empire, with Emperor Maximilian as the Gentiles' front.
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It was also Edward's great grandfather, Amschel Rothschild I, who equipped and sent here 16,800 Hessian soldiers to crush the American patriots who started the War of Independence.
The leaders of Bolshevism are Jews,--Edward's mere agents.
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"The only real experiment in the setting up of Communism had resulted in a tyranny being replaced by a tyranny ten thousand times more hideous" (Rev. D. Kennedy-Bell, Vicar of St. John's, London, The Daily Mail, Aug. 1925)..........................
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http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=11221.0

Richard Dreyfuss ,victim of Australian Ambush Journalism ! Thanks Lisa Wilkinson for making us ''look good ''

That young thing lying on the bed with the 'come play with me' eyes looks like my grand daughter. What the fuck is happening on PP?

Serious sexual assault of woman in Carlton on week end.. CCTV footage of young males released by police shown on Seven afternoon news

The men were clearly of middle eastern appearance , Lebs I would suspect but they wouldn't say that of course . That would be ethnic profiling I would suppose

But but.....the media said we all loved the idea!!.......https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/supermarkets-cop-spray-from-customers-furious-at-plastic-bag-ban/news-story/7111630884dba0ccdd3ed8537f69447e

In case you missed this special guest lovey "it" on their ABC....
A gender confused commo kid from Anfita openly slandering ex Australian PM, Tony Abbot, on the leftie load panel of bedwetting nobodies on Q&A!

Down with the racist Western civilisation.....PS kid Australia is officially the 3rd least racist country in the world!

https://www.facebook.com/SocialistAltUSyd/videos/vb.518759551495941/1820452997993250/?type=2&theater

Well, I don't just 'think' He exists, I KNOW He does! Too many weird and wonderful things have happened to me throughout my very long life, to actually have any doubts about His existence. I don't have to prove anything to anyone! I can tell you with absolute certainty, that if I didn't believe in Him, I would have been dead ages ago, because there would have been no reason TO live. I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that G-d gave us Life and Freedom of choice - what we do with that, is then our gift back to Him. As a Christian preacher said so very aptly when asked if he had faith in Christ :
It isn’t rocket science. It isn’t in the least bit complicated. Have faith in Christ. That is what God wants us to do. If we get that right, everything else will follow.
I am always intrigued by people who blame G-d for everything bad that happens to them! Over the years, I have always noticed this feeling of 'entitlement' some people have! They always seem to need to blame somebody . . .and who better than to blame an invisible being, using Him as a convenient crutch for their ills. It isn't guns that kill people - it is people who kill people!
G-d gave us a set of structured rules to live by, called The Ten Commandments. Not difficult to follow if one thinks of themselves as 'civilised'. NOT believing in the G-d who gave us His rules, and not following those rules is what causes chaos and mayhem, because people don't think they are responsible, or liable or that there are any consequences to their behaviour of savagery. Disbelief in G-d opens the gateway to lawlessness and anarchy, creating the 'anything goes' disaster .

NZ PM has a daughter.

The Gateway Pundit .. right wing PRO TRUMP blog.
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Makes good reading and dare I say sense to those on the conservative side of politics.

Labarites/Greenies/Getup/turd followers dont bother

SUPERMARKETS have really hit the jackpot with self-checkout and plastic bag bans sure to boost their profitability.

From Wednesday, Woolworths supermarkets throughout Victoria as well as BWS, Metro, petrol stations and Big W will ban the use of what have been erroneously labelled “single-use plastic bags” and will charge shoppers for the pleasure of carrying their purchases in thicker plastic bags.

But don’t dare complain because this profitable line of corporate virtue signalling is a sign of progress and supposedly enjoys widespread support.

SHOPPERS WILL SPEND MORE AS WOOLWORTHS DUMPS PLASTIC BAGS

PLASTIC BAG BAN: WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR YOU?

CROWN CASINO TO PHASE OUT PLASTIC

It’s a sign of how big business can take advantage of the gullibility of well-intentioned consumers.

Not only do an increasing number of shoppers dutifully scan and bag their own items, saving the likes of Woolworths and Coles a fortune in wages, but now we’ll be paying for the plastic or fabric bags needed

Scandal-hit Senator Lucy Gichuhi was taken to court a staggering seven times for failing to pay nearly $10,000 in council rates and water bills - and she's STILL working off the debt despite earning $200,000 a year

The backbencher, who owns four houses in South Australia with her husband William, had failed to pay $8,359 worth council rates and $1,372 in water bills.