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Monday, 22nd October 2018

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Viv Forbes

Viv has a degree in Applied Science Geology and is a Fellow of the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy


Premier’s Electric Cars Run on Carbon Fuels

The Premier of Queensland has agreed to subsidise eight expensive new toys – electric cars.

Greens are hailing this as the spear-point of their green energy revolution. But the Premier’s green cars will run on . . . HYDRO-CARBONS.

Electric cars need large batteries, which have to be recharged.

Maybe the Premier has a large subsidised solar panel on the roof of her garage, so that when she comes home, she can recharge the big battery?

But the sun does not shine at night, so the car will have to rely on grid-power from coal.

She could of course get taxpayers to buy an expensive battery for the garage which gets charged when the sun shines and then re-charges the green car at night – all very expensive to install and replace. And during and after every cloudy spell, it would still need to run on coal.

Batteries also go flat at inconvenient times and on long trips, so the Premier has wisely chosen a hybrid car – it has a spare petrol engine under the bonnet too, making the whole thing very complicated and expensive.

Most green toys rely on reliable energy for backup. But this one needs two carbon fuel backups - petrol and coal. Rather a black shade of green?

Electric cars have benefits for big cities. Petrol and diesel engines degrade mega-cities with noise and use up oxygen; and some old engines may emit air pollutants such as soot, smoke, carbon monoxide, NOX, SOX and unburnt hydrocarbons. Electric cars can be quiet, clean city cars. But they fail for the long hauls of the outback . . . not really a Queensland “Outlander” – more like a Brisbane “Citylander”.

The Premier should promote Queensland industry by highlighting the fact that her big city toys are not only clean and quiet, but also run mainly on nature’s best solar energy battery – ancient sunshine stored in organic, energy-dense Queensland coal.

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Sydney's sister city of San Fran... or is it brother city?




Spanish renewable energy company Abengoa on Thursday applied for preliminary protection from creditors and called in lenders to start negotiating the terms of an agreement that would prevent a definitive suspension of payments.

In accordance with Spanish insolvency laws, the company has four months to reach an out-of-court agreement with its creditors.

Abengoa is on its way to becoming the biggest bankruptcy case in Spanish business history

And while her car is out running on electricity, the coal power station is still burning coal. Can't just turn the power stations off and on at a whim.

Thank you Viv, for another inconvenient truth.

Oddly enough the Premier might believe what she is saying. Totally non-mechanical people like the Premier would probably not understand the connection between power stations and electric cars. I seem to recall many years ago Jo Bjelke Petersen was a very strong supporter of some idiot's proposed car that ran entirely on water.

EUROPE’S commitment to clean energy is unclear heading into the COP21 climate talks in Paris, with energy commissioner Maros Sefcovic saying that the commission is struggling to identify a diversity of clean supply options for Europe’s needs.

Giving his ‘State of the EU’ address this week, Sefcovic said the EU was struggling to meet the goals contained in a well-received strategic paper in February, aimed at decreasing Europe's reliance on fossil fuels and increasing energy security and energy efficiency.

He said that the EU’s member states lack sufficient alternatives to Russian gas supplies and called for "an urgent political push" for strategic power and gas links to share resources across the union, but he is facing ideological opposition, with the UK sidelining renewables, Poland’s new conservative government committed to coal-fired power generation.

Germany, a champion of decarbonising and switching from nuclear power, is also chaffing under EU scrutiny of a proposed to expand the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline to Germany.

Sefcovic said the European Commission would scrutinise whether the Nord Stream plan complies with EU rules, but German vice-chancellor Sigmar Gabriel has told Brussels to “stop poking its nose into the project’s progress,”

Nord Stream 2 is a plan to build two natural gas pipelines with a combined capacity of 55 billion cubic metres per annum that will run some 1200 kilometres from Russia across the Baltic Sea to Germany.

The pipeline will run alongside the existing Nord Stream 1 pipelines, but will originate at different locations in Russia and terminate at different points in Germany.

Sefcovic, who may have one of the EU’s least thankful jobs, said the union needed to realise that neither climate change nor geopolitical issues are going away, so European nations need to double down on diversifying their energy sources, expanding renewables and looking away from Russia.

The Commission is seeking sustainable, affordable, efficient and diversified supplies - meaning at least three separate suppliers, but many EU members say Russia, which provides around a third of EU energy, is their only option

The US is prepared to aid with LNG shipments, and pipeline gas from Azerbaijan and North Africa are considered viable alternatives, but the EU still needs to finalise an LNG strategy that will require better infrastructure to share the gas around Europe.

Progress on cross-border connections is slow, because of planning battles and governments' reluctance to rely on other nations.

Apart from seeking better infrastructure, the Commission is bracing for a tough fight next year on how to share 2030 target to reduce greenhouse emissions by at least 40% versus 1990 limits.

Non-governmental organisations say the Commission is too focused on gas as a replacement fuel for coal, and they want Europe to decarbonise as quickly as possible.

The EU has drafted an emissions trading scheme it will take to COP21, to act as a carbon price, and aims to complete a plan for a redesign of the EU electricity market, to make the system fairer and more integrated.

I suspect that you are neither Proud, White or Christian.

Prove it.

They've reportedly this week had the biggest snow storm in a hundred years in USA . Of course the climate bullshitters will blame global warming. You gotta laugh haven't you? The cycle of warming where the temp increased .2% degree in a hundred years finished 19 years ago but the never ending global warming party keeps rolling along. Global warming has stopped. The party is over. Or at least it should be over.

Eight white elephants. Nevermind if the sun is or isn't shining Viv, these things will always need fossil fuels to run. They're hybrid electric cars, not full electric. You can bet your last dollar that the electric motor will only run in 'city' driving (low speeds, stop/start traffic). As soon as the the foot moves the accelerator to the point where more 'oomph' is required, that petrol motor will kick in.

From the looks of it, it's not a real offroader either. Looks more like one of those urban tanks that professional/management type hubbies lease for the little wife to chaufer bubs to and from daycare while she does the gym, shopping and coffee with the girls...

This is Mitsubishi's product blurb -

The innovative Plug-in Hybrid system that powers the Outlander PHEV delivers remarkable eco efficiency without compromising comfort, performance or convenience. Sophisticated yet, practical, it represents the next generation of electric cars. The new Outlander Plug-in Hybrid SUV brings you fuel efficiency like you’ve never experienced before in an SUV.

A highly efficient 2.0L MIVEC petrol engine paired with high output 60kW twin front and rear motors and a high capacity 12kWh drive battery can produce a combined fuel economy of 1.9L/100km.* That’s remarkable for any car, let alone an SUV. And there's no loss of power and no loss of range. PHEV offers an unbelievable cruising range.

Around the suburbs or the city you can drive up to 50km a day in EV mode when fully charged. That's ZERO fuel and ZERO drive time emissions. You'll most likely need to charge every few days but that's as simple as plugging your PHEV into a 15 amp power point at home.

Whadda you suggest we should do PWC? Fall down on our knees and ask Big G for help to solve the world's problems? It's never worked before.

There you on Q&A tonight: we need a world government to solve global warming.

On Eve Of Paris Climate Summit, Britain Sends Out Warning On Cost Of Renewable Energy

Date: 21/11/15 | Griff Witte, The Washington Post

“We are reaching the limits of what is affordable and what the public is prepared to accept,” Britain’s Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change told Parliament when she announced cuts in green energy subsidies.

With breathtaking abruptness, the British government has in recent months slashed its support for solar power and other renewable forms of energy, leaving a once-promising industry with grim prospects and throwing into doubt the country’s commitment to clean power.

The moves have baffled environmentalists, business leaders and even many government allies. Britain has long been in the vanguard of efforts to combat global warming. It has been expected to play a leading role — alongside the Obama administration — in efforts to secure a package of tough reforms at the U.N. climate change summit in Paris, which kicks off at the end of this month.

But the decision to cut hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of support for renewable energy at home, with a planned 87 percent reduction in subsidies for solar power, threatens to undermine Britain’s international authority, while showing just how difficult it can be for a developed nation to break a centuries-long addiction to fossil fuels.

“Britain’s been leading the way for years,” said Frans van den Heuvel, chief executive of Solar­century, the company responsible for the pro bono installation of the Tate’s rooftop panels. “But now the government looks like it wants to kill the industry before it can stand on its own two feet.”

Britain on Wednesday became the first major economy to propose a phase-out of coal-fired power plants, saying it intends to do so by 2025. But the government’s plan relies heavily on a switch to gas rather than cleaner alternatives.

Despite its support until now for alternative sources, the United Kingdom still ranks close to the bottom of the European Union in its use of renewables. In 2014, it used fossil fuels to produce more than 60 percent of its electricity, half again as much as the E.U. average. Nuclear power accounted for an additional 19 percent.

It’s not just the subsidy cuts that are hurting renewable energy in Britain. Cheap fossil fuels have made it tough for solar and wind to compete, even as the technology behind green energy matures and costs tumble. Van den Heuvel estimated that solar power is at least several years away from matching the price of more conventional fuels.

But time may be running out: The International Energy Agency reported last week that despite progress toward cleaner energy, the world still requires “a major course correction” to avoid a potentially catastrophic 3.6-degree Fahrenheit rise above average temperatures last seen in the 19th?century, when coal-fired Britain launched the world into the industrial era.

Britain is not alone in reducing support for renewable energy. Countries across the West are weaning those industries from the subsidies that have made them competitive with dirtier fuels such as oil, gas and coal. Germany and Spain have scaled back ambitious incentive programs, citing higher than expected public costs. The major tax credit for solar power in the United States is due to expire at the end of next year.

In most places, however, the process has been gradual and somewhat predictable, giving businesses the chance to adjust.

In Britain, the changes have been dramatic and came with little warning. As other countries bolster their green commitments in the run-up to Paris, a top U.N. scientist last month singled out Britain for sending “a very perverse signal” by eliminating support for onshore wind energy and proposing to slash solar subsidies by nearly 90 percent.

The government has been vague about likely savings, but officials say cuts will help to significantly reduce a projected $2 billion cost overrun in the renewable energy incentive program over the next five years.

But the moves could also mean hundreds of thousands fewer ­green-energy installations. As customers have canceled orders and investors have fled, British renewable energy firms have laid off workers or redirected them to projects overseas. Several have gone bust this fall.

“There’s no better way to disrupt an industry than to create constant uncertainty,” said Howard Johns, whose firm, Southern Solar, went bankrupt last month. “And that’s exactly what we’ve seen.”

Government officials say the time had come to allow renewable energy firms to live or die on their own.

“We have a duty to protect consumers and keep bills as low as possible while we reduce emissions,” said the energy secretary, Amber Rudd, in a speech explaining the moves. “Decarbonization has to be sensitive to the impact it has on people’s pockets.”

Green Madness: Renewable Energy Bosses Cash In On Diesel

Date: 22/11/15 | Josh Boswell and Jonathan Leake, The Sunday Times

Britain’s green energy barons are getting huge taxpayer subsidies to install diesel generators — exactly the kind of polluting energy source their wind and solar farms are meant to replace.

Wind and solar power firms are being encouraged to install the generators, which pour out CO2, a greenhouse gas, and toxic nitrogen dioxide, on their sites in order to provide standby generating capacity and prevent the lights going out during periods of peak demand.

The giant Roundponds solar farm, near Melksham, Wiltshire, is among the first green generators to take advantage. The directors of Hive Energy, which owns it, have won permission to put diesel generators near the solar panels — despite local objections.

Similarly, First Renewable has won permission for a diesel farm next to its wind turbines and solar panels at Kettering Energy Park in Northamptonshire.

Diesel generators are typically built into shipping containers, each producing 2-3 megawatts (MW) of power — roughly the same as a large wind turbine. The Department of Energy and Climate Change (Decc) is offering consumer-funded subsidies to firms that install such “short-term operating reserve” because Britain has invested so little in large new power stations that there is a risk of winter power cuts.

Diesel generators are a short-term fix because they can be installed fast and switched on in minutes if needed.

Julian Pertwee, a director at Hive and investor in the Roundponds diesel farm, said: “This is a business opportunity. The country needs standby electricity supplies.”

About 1,000 such diesel units were installed in the past 18 months, with a similar number being planned, making diesel farms among the fastest-growing energy sectors.

"From 1998 to 2005, Exxon proceeded to do just that, contributing almost $16 million to organizations designed to muddy the scientific waters. Exxon came clean, in its way, in 2007, when it publicly acknowledged that the earth’s warming was caused, in large part, by CO2 from the very stuff that made billions for Exxon. It promised to no longer fund climate change deniers."

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...and here you have it...a classic example of stupidity and moronic left wing mind set...."Pluck-a-Chook" is so concerned about the state of Queensland...not to mention Australia...all she is worried about is having some kind of electric, no...she is worried about Global Warming...and what does she know...fucking ZERO....she is dumb as dog shit...don't worry that you need power stations to generate electricity to recharge the car...never for one second does this piece of fact ever enters her stupid vacuumed head that electricity must be we can all days we get idiots and opportunists going into politics for the get rich schemes and "Gravy Train"....she and her ilk should be thrown out on their arses as they so stupid that it defies belief...

Comment in today's UK Guardian newspaper: "Earth’s temperature is heading towards its highest for three million years."
A mere three million. Perhaps this will sell a few more papers, but I can’t say I’m trembling in my boots.

The airhead surfie boy premier of NSW will follow her lead.

There is more oil in the shale deposits across just 3 States in the US than has been sucked out of the earth since the dawn of time. There has been advances in all kinds of combustion engines since WW2 that actual 'petrol pills' really do exist and have done so, in various forms, since the 1950s. Efficient, performance engines can run on what is essentially H2O with a few additives and other means of fuel saving ensure require only a miniscule amount of it is needed compared to the antiquated machines we are sold today. Similar frauds apply to aeroplane design. (Whereby if engines fail they will not have the aerodynamics of a brick.) Electricity generators ditto. (Perpetual motion? No, but close.) But don't expect to see this on the telly any time soon. There's too much money to be made

After reading several posts below may I add my contribution: Our 'dependence' on oil, whether it comes from an Arab cesspit or not, is a contrived fallacy, a lie and the biggest outright, confidence trick perpetrated on the people of this planet and no wonder. It generates untold squillions for Arab slugs, western countries, their rulers, big and small corporations, elite business, high and low flyers and millions of parasites down every level to the gutter, mainly though, it is Governments and big business. The amazing thing is, at least as I understand it, we don't need much of the stuff at all? Certainly not to run combustion engines IE: Cars, planes, ships etc. And certainly again, not ARAB OIL. Because the earth is literally floating on the stuff. Oil is (still) everywhere.

I don't have a problem with electric cars, simply because the cost of petrol, LPG and diesel fuel is so dear. If I had enough money, I certainly would buy a tesla.

Miss Piggy might also like to consider the environmental and energy costs of mining, processing, manufacture and disposal of Lithium used in the batteries.