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Kirralie Smith

Kirralie Smith is the creator of the halal choices website, shopping guide book and phone app and an expert on halal certification of foods and supermarkets in Australia www.halalchoices.com.au

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PLAYING THE HALAL BLAME GAME?


In the past few weeks halal certification has been a hot topic. Social media campaigns are being blamed for backlashes and causing hardship to Aussie companies.

Many people who dare speak out against halal certification are being labelled as racists or bigots. You know, I have never heard someone who criticises the Catholic church labelled a racist or a bigot, that would be absurd. It also seems well understood that to criticise Nazis is not hating all Germans. 

Nor is speaking out against communism seen as an attack on Chinese people. You would certainly be seen as an idiot if you called that racism. And yet, anyone who wants to discuss the religious political ideology known as Islam is shouted down with ridiculous name-calling.

Quite frankly I think many Aussies have had enough. They are exercising their right to freedom of speech. And also keeping in good Aussie form by asking questions and desiring to enter into a debate about these issues.

Anyone who denigrates fair discussion of halal or Islam as “racist” is small minded and illogical.

Maleny Dairies publicised the fact they were not paying for halal certification because it was unnecessary.  And it is unnecessary. The Islamic Co-ordinating Council of Victoria clearly states that milk is already permissible (no certificate or fees are required). As a result this company has unfairly copped it from both sides, labelling it a racist stance, from media and the general public. 

No! It was a good Aussie business decision that they were entitled to make and promote



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Comments

Richard.oz, the prick djt is just that, a prick. Talks like an encyclopaedia but googles,cut and paste bits and pieces and makes out it came from his brilliant brain when in actual fact it has nothing between the ears but empty space.

Ha ha ha ha ,,, good one. Bet the tax office doesn't hound them .

When is the world going to wake up that religion is bullshit......Go worship a tree, at least you KNOW it's real and alive. Anything to do with religion is as boring as batshit.

This definition nails it: Islam is a total immersion legal, political, economic, social, and military system of government wrapped in a thin skin of religion.

Our Australian government also has a legal, political, economic, social, and military system of government. But it is not wrapped in any religion. We welcome all religions that promote peace and good will.

But calling Islam a religion is like calling Nazism a religion. They both have elements of religious behaviour, but they are definitely not religions.

Just received this reply from Laucke Flour mills: Wheat flour, and the ingredients we use in our Bread Mixes meet the conditions of an halal Muslim diet – simply by our choice of ingredients.
However, to assure some of our commercial customers that this is the case, we have in the past undergone inspections & been Halal Certified. This Certification has always been with a reputable Religious group.

We have however, recently re-evaluating this situation and have decided to no longer renew that Certification. The products will still be compliant, but will not be Certified.

Best regards,

David Hogan
Quality Operations Manager
Laucke Flour Mills Pty Ltd

How do we know the halal fees are actually leaving Australia seeing the collectors of these fees are becoming very wealthy personally ?

The government needs to call it what it is, an Ideology, and close it down.

Who the hell is running our country, the Islamic council of Victoria or Tony [where are you] Abbott. we are in deep strife with nobody at the helm.

this is a nice religion imo.. Quote~ ``12 Things to Remember``1) The Value of Time. 2)The Success of Perseverance.3)The Pleasure of Working.4)The Dignity of Simplicity.5)The Worth of Character.6)The Power of Kindness.7)The Influence of Example.8)The Obligation of Duty.9)The Wisdom of Economy.10) The Virtue of Patience.11)The improvement of Talent. 12) The Joy of Originating._Mr Marshall Field .Hope you like it Kirrallie :))

What about the 98% of ozzies who do not want to give the islams one red friggin cent. Just fark off with your support of a corrupt, stealth program of theft, called halal certification. You, your religious chumps, and your gutless women in burkhas can just go take a flying leap.

ABBThee har har.. oh dear talk about waaaay too much foreign whoo ha.

Hmm gee.. do you think they should re- name abthee the religiously sensitive new name of Ali Baa Baa Cad`jeer`ah~ so as the Short version would still be ABthee but with an emotive flavour to it and so as to strongly compete(wink) with the O/s ALjaZeera? Just a suggestion for Zebra sake?

Dairy Choice milk and A2 milk is non halal according to Kirralie but be careful with the A2 because Dairy Farmers also have one with A2 written on it and that is halal. The proper halal free A2 milk just has A2 on the label. I usually stock up on it and keep it in the freezer.

Cadbury's family block chocolates going very cheap at Woolworths. Wonder why.

I posted a story from News.com.au about Halal and social media. It is a fairly critical story, I think leveled at KS. I posted it so PP's could see how the MSM was treating social concern about Halal. I have been abused by Disraeli and Funkbarfly for my efforts...http://www.news.com.au/finance/small-business/halal-conspiracy-theorists-bullying-australian-businesses/story-fn9evb64-1227119726790

Islamic law requires a 2.5% tax called zakat which is imposed on income and accumulated wealth of all devout Muslims.
ie. the muslims that are involved in the halal industry- the imams, slaughtermen, workers, business & shop owners etc.

Halal certification is done on a fee for service basis, with the fees varying with the scope and scale of the services.
Certification is provided by Islamic organizations, and would not be halal if the required zakat was not paid on the fees.

What you may not know is that there are eight classes of zakat recipients, each of which gets a 1/8 share of the gross.
One of those classifications is fighters in Allah’s cause aka Mudihideen, aka terrorists.
When you purchase a product which is certified Halal, you are indirectly contributing to terrorism.

I quote from Reliance of the Traveller, the Shari’ah handbook of the majority Sunni sect of Islam.

h8.7: The Eight Categories of Recipients

It is obligatory to distribute one’s zakat among eight categories of recipients (O: meaning that zakat goes to none besides them), one-eighth of the zakat to each category. (n: In the Hanafi school, it is valid for the giver to distribute his zakat to all of the categories, some of them, or to confine himself to just one of them (al-Lubab fi sharh al-Kitab(y88), 1.155). )

h8.17: Those Fighting for Allah
The seventh category is those fighting for Allah, meaning people engaged in Islamic military operations for whom no salary has been allotted in the army roster, but who are volunteers for jihad without remuneration.
They are given enough to suffice them for the operation, even if affluent; of weapons, mounts, clothing, and expenses for the duration of the journey, round trip, and the time they spend there, even if prolonged. http://www.boycotthalal.com/halal-funds-terrorists-zakat/

SOCIAL media can be a useful tool for consumers to talk back to companies. Sometimes, it’s used for good. But sometimes, it’s used to bully a business that’s done nothing wrong.
There’s a pervasive conspiracy theory floating out there. You’ve probably heard or read it at some point. It goes something like this: That all ‘real’ Australians should stop buying halal-certified food or you’ll inadvertently end up funding terrorists.
Websites have popped up in recent years which have sought to ‘uncover the truth’ about halal certification. One of the more active sites, Halal Choices, claims certifying bodies are the beneficiaries of a “constant stream of funds to support Islamic projects which contribute to the advancement of sharia (Islamic law) here and around the world.”.......http://www.news.com.au/finance/small-business/halal-conspiracy-theorists-bullying-australian-businesses/story-fn9evb64-1227119726790

Smile sent to you surrounded by scented Ylang Ylang ( magnolia stelata flowers?)~~ Catch ~ It is a cyber smile willed* on with incentive Kirrallie. Thank-You for being you.

On another matter, these muslims who keep bringing up the term, 'not for profit'
This must mean TAX FREE....they don't pay tax.
It appears they take take take and give us nothing but an insult to our way of life.

I won't pay into their system and the businesses who do partake in this blackmail should only label those product being sent overseas to islamic countries...not here, not ever.

He is strong on working for the opinions of the money making scammers in haal certification but he ignores the interests on all other Australians who want no part in this. We are being subjected to compulsory hahl payment sand it doesn't matter is it's 2 cents or $200 I don't give a bugger..........it's not out religion,
I am insulted by being subjected to their offensive belief.